We were told that the site was down, because our service provider changed MySQL server to a faster one.
Apparently that was not all they did, because our chatterbox is a mess. They have updated something and that caused the chatterbox problem. FienDi will start building it from scratch in a sec, hopefully he'll get it done soon so we can reopen the site. Atm it's closed due maintenance reasons.

The problem is too big to fix, so it's easier to create a new one. And FienDi's php skills have developed a lot since it was first created, so most likely we'll get a better one

Again, sorry for the inconvenience..

Quote from agor :

So is it possible to do something about that OLFSL ???
It's hard for anyone to count the points, there must be some code to do that.

You can always ask FienDi All point calculations (and templates for that) on OLFSL website are made by him, so it would be pretty easy to do.

This has been discussed earlier, but back then we didn't have many teams so there was no point.. But now that has changed.

As is our service provider's.. We have once again contacted them and hopefully the site will be up and running again soon. If not, we'll open a temp site.

Updates will be informed here. Sorry for the inconvenience.


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Update: Site seems to be working now.
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Last edited by Mrs FienDi, Fri, 27 Jan 2006 05:31.

Quote from xenoa :

thnx to MrsFiendi to let me change pool \o/
ps. Thnx to OLFS crew to organizing this kinda racing

Our pleasure :throwrose

On behalf of OLFSL Staff I'd like to thank all our members who show up week after week and make our efforts worth it. Thank you. :grouphug:

Quote from Eblio :

Besides all the problems, 16ppl seems to much.

The Pools are always about the same size, and we rarely have problems like this. Because of that I think 2 things may have caused it:

1. People have a lot of unnecessary programs running (OLFSL rules: When you join in your Pool, we kindly ask you, please take extra care not to run any other applications or programs in the background) and that causes lags etc.

2. The connection issue is local and therefore only some of the racers suffer from it. I personally did not see many lags, only one huge lag that caused a huge crash in pool 2.

Also if someone has a slow connection or slow computer, that may cause problems as well. However slow connection is not always the reason, because I know for a fact that we've had racers online with a 56k modem and there were no problems that night.

OLFSL members have requested that pools are as big as possible, and I have done that. We could make them smaller, but I don't think that would make much difference and then we'd have to deal with one other problem: small number of hosts.
Me and FienDi are already sitting by our computers from 16 GMT to 21-22 GMT (we only get 5-15 min breaks), I think that's enough for one night..

Quote from PwrSlave :

Thanks again mrs fiendi for hosting. We hopefully did'n bring too much gray hair on u

Nahh.. I dye my hair red every 2-3 months (my own color is blond), so it doesn't show don't worry

Quote from BurnOut69 :

Of course no problem sending an e-mail, just didnt want to cause trouble if I dont race after having sent the hot lap.

But it seems its the only way to go, so...so be it

Actually there is another way..

You can send me an email during the week and tell me which time would be possible for you to race in OLFSL. I do grant these requests whenever possible, and so far it has been about 98%. This way you don't have to delete your hotlap later.

So if you know when the other thing is, you can ask me to schedule your pool so that you can participate in both leagues.

And if it was an LFS league, I certainly would not have a problem with it. OLFSL is open for all who want to race with us, even if they race in another league. We don't have a problem with that.
Just so this thing is clear..

--
Mrs FienDi
Pool Manager/PR Manager
The Original LFS League

Quote from HeerBommel :

It's for my psychic health she says illepall .

What's that.. something edible?

Quote from Kumicho :

Does the penalties count in hotlaps, right now i didnt manage to see it? we have to watch spr and detect penalties "manually"? Right?

The information about the penalties is apparently not saved in the replay, so it doesn't count in hotlaps. But it counts in the race, so I suggest clean laps.

Quote from Kumicho :

In hot lap only secong lap is important?
If so ive got a little hint, u may warm up your tyres in the 1st one

Both are important. Total time is what counts.

That penalty thing is difficult. Those apparently are not added to total time (the information is not saved in the replay), so the site doesn't recognize them either. We just have to play with the times we get with or without penalties.

Although in the actual race penalties do count, if the game doesn't do that, the hosts will. So try not to hit them, it will only hurt you in the race

Quote from nikimere :

As it says above i cant get it to print my time in the Hotlap file name. Mine just says FINISHED.... does this matter?

I'm a noob at this myself, but I'll try..

I was told that the hotlap thingy doesn't understand it, so you have to drive the laps in single player mode and save the replay. Then just upload the replay to OLFSL website like you upload hotlaps. The site will take care of the rest

If you have done this, and you still have problems, then I must say my knowledge in this case ends here.. so someone more experienced needs to step in

Quote from russraine :

I don't think anyone would actually do it, we all want to have a fair system, just I thought it was a small loophole.

And you're absolutely right. Although I think if you spend hours making a track, you know it so well you can see it immediately if one part of it has moved an inch :boing:

Quote from russraine :

Luckily I haven't even tried making a course myself yet so it would take me weeks to be able to learn how to do it like FienDi does it!!

Oh, that's nice That was FienDi's 3rd or 4th track layout, so he's not a pro yet either but learning fast

Quote from nikimere :

Do we do it in 'Hotlap' mode?

Sure if you find a way to do it in hotlap mode

You have to go to single player.

Quote from russraine :

All you would have to do is load the current layout into the editor and widen the paths through the tyres just a little (not enough to easily see by visual) but enough to help navigate, then save that and use it instead.

Any thoughts?

Not that I'm accusing anyone of cheating yet!!

I see your point. But this is meant to be plain fun, no one should take it too seriously. Cheating is something I don't tolerate (and I bet other staff members won't either), so I don't recommend it.

However, cheating won't get you far anyway, because using your own layout is not possible in the race.

We trust you all to be fair and honest. We trust you to have fun in the Skilldriving Challenge, that's what we wanted to give you as our Christmas present.

Quote from thisnameistaken :

Oh what the hell I'll give it a try, but please make that music available so I can play it while doing my laps - I'm only doing this for the crazy music!

The song is called Moskau, and the band is Rammstein.


Thanks guys, see ya there!

Last edited by Mrs FienDi, Tue, 20 Dec 2005 11:09.

Christmas surprise!

As our Christmas present to all of you we have decided to arrange a Special Skilldriving Challenge. This is in no way related to our ongoing season, this is an independent minievent that we are putting together to thank you all for making all our efforts worth it.

The track layout is still a heavily guarded secret, but it will be revealed soon. You can then download it from our website and start practicing. This minievent will be held on 15th January. You need to send your hotlaps by 8th January.

Here’s the idea of this Skilldriving Challenge:

You will all drive 2 laps, and then send it to us like you send your hotlaps. More instructions on that will follow when we get our systems ready.
30 fastest drivers will then compete in the actual event. Those 30 fastest drivers will be divided into 3 groups randomly and after they have all driven, their times define their positions. So in this event it doesn’t matter which group you are driving in, only your time matters!

All of you will race your laps alone. After everyone has completed those 2 laps, 5 fastest of each group will get to race another 2 laps.

More information will follow later, but this is the basic idea behind it.

You can now download our Skilldriving Challenge promotion video, compliments of our very own videomaker; FienDi!

Merry Christmas to you all and happy new year!

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The Original LFS League Staff

The video:

http://www.lfs-league.com/misc/special_event.zip

Last edited by varjsa-9, Mon, 19 Dec 2005 22:49.

Our webhotel is experiencing some problems, and unfortunately it effects us as well. We have contacted them and informed them about this problem, so hopefully they will get it fixed soon.

Atm we won't open a temp site, but if this problem continues, we will reconsider opening it.

I will inform you all in case we get updates on this issue.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

UPDATE: Seems to work OK now

Last edited by Mrs FienDi, Sat, 17 Dec 2005 15:06.

Quote from Cawwa :

Btw ... is there a way to see the fuel consumtion somewhere?

Yes there is. Go in the game and drive at least one lap. Then press F12.

Quote from Cawwa :

Is it still possible to join this league? In our team we probably will have about 5 (prolly more) drivers who would love to join.
Does anyone know where find the unofficial manual to S2? I would like to see how you do those pitstops, all shortcuts and what is possible to do.

Yeah, of course! Welcome to OLFSL Anyone is welcome at any time.
You can find the shortcuts here: http://www.liveforspeed.net/?page=keys but that's all I know.

Quote from Cawwa :

We are also interested in some endurance team event and I saw something about it in this forum. Anyone else in here who runs that? Maybe some hints and tips would be very usefull for us.

Check the Leagues&Events, you'll find more info about the Endurance league from there.

--
Mrs FienDi
Pool Manager/PR Manager
The Original LFS League

Quote from alzys177 :

i will try another e-mail also..

Well you can always send me one.. that works. I can tell FienDi (I can say it to his face or call him :nod. And I do have access to the database as well..

@Alzy

It's no use telling that here. The ONLY person who can fix that for you or help you fix it (assuming the problem has something to do with our website, which btw still works perfectly) is FienDi. So send him a message if you want it fixed.

Up to you of course, but I highly recommend it..

Btw do you have another email account we could try?

Let me get this straight.. So basically what you're saying is that it's our fault that you lost points because you didn't follow the rules?

Every decision is based on what we see in those replays, we don't have access to anyone's head you know! Therefore we have no way of knowing if something is intentional or not, we just have to rely on what it looks like.

But get real.. You can't first complain on something and then do it yourself in the next race just because your complaint was rejected! Most incidents happen because someone makes a mistake and that causes a crash. Doesn't make it intentional, does it?

And about FienDi taking advantage of Pedro's spin.. FienDi wasn't the one who knocked Pedro off the track, therefore he has no obligation to wait for him to get back on track. YOU caused that, so you were the one who should have waited.

Our rules don't cover everything, we know that and we're working on that, but we do have rules and they're the same for everyone. We do not bend those rules, and me, FienDi, Solar Hydro and our member admin are the ones who know those rules the best, because we wrote them.

You don't have to race in OLFSL if you don't want to, but would you please stop pretending you know OLFSL rules better than we do? Also stop accusing us of bending them, because that's totally BS.

Quote from Blackout :

But if host would have asked me to go spectate I would have done it

I didn't ask you to spectate, because I didn't think you were in the way. Your car was parked nicely on the wall and you almost made it back without help so.. Everyone passed you easily and they were far enough so I just didn't see the need to ask you to spectate.

Don't turn this into something it's not, please..

We all were just wondering why your son was the one complaining about the pool/accident you were in instead of you. That's all. No one is picking a fight, no one is questioning your driving skills or your son's. We were JUST wondering.

However, his way of impressing his opinion was a bit attacking.. I understand his frustration tho. I ALWAYS assume, that crashes like the one you were in are just accidents, until I get proof that it was in fact intentional. A crash alone isn't enough to give anyone a penalty, but if it's intentional or involves unsportsmanlike behaviour, then it's a whole different issue.

Solar Hydro spends hours watching the replays from various angles and usually he asks our opinion too before he makes a decision. So all together there are usually 4 people (me, FienDi, Solar Hydro and our member admin) who watch the replay. If there is a reason to give penalties, it will be done. Your son might want to take a look at our website; the rules and penalties. Maybe that will show him that we do have rules.. But we still can't control anyone's driving. Only the driver himself can.